About construct2 and videos

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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:18 am

Hmm as far as I'm interested (I'm into vfx as well) I don't think you should bother including the actual encoding in there (and I doubt you can find better than ffmpeg either)
There's already a bunch of tools for that...and C2 is becoming a huge download already
I wouldn't mind native support for playback control thoughlemo2013-04-12 00:22:41
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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:42 am

@bon4ire - we can't use a Firefox extension from Construct 2!
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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:14 am

:D I know. I saw it more as an assisting tool.

But yes, I don't believe C2 should encode for video since there are way too many tools out there that can already do it.

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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:55 am

[QUOTE=Ashley] The main reason is the encoding issue, like with audio. We have to dual encode all audio formats because petty arguments by browser makers mean they can't agree on one format that works everywhere. However at least audio is relatively simple to convert. There are good free tools that we've taken advantage of, and encoding is relatively simple (generally you just set a bitrate and go).

With video it seems to get a lot more complicated. Again there needs to be two formats encoded to support all browsers: Theora or WebM and H.264. However I've found it hard to find good tools that are definitely legal to use in commercial software, and can decode a decent variety of video formats. For example ffmpeg looks like the best candidate for an encoder, but they admit on their own website if you use it in a commercial product some companies may come after you for licensing fees. And in audio, 16-bit PCM .wavs are basically guaranteed to be decodable by anything. What's the same format for video though? Will .avi actually work with all encoders? I must admit I don't know much about video processing - does anyone even still use .avi? It's a lot less convenient to use uncompressed video than it is to use uncompressed audio, since uncompressed video files are truly gigantic. So I'm not even sure if dual encoding will be useful, if it can only definitely encode a ridiculously impractical format like .avi to both necessary formats. If anyone out there is a video expert, I would appreciate some tips on how to solve this.

You can always encode the video files yourself if you know what you're doing, and then I believe there's a third party plugin that can play videos too.[/QUOTE]

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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:55 am

[QUOTE=Ashley]
With video it seems to get a lot more complicated. Again there needs to be two formats encoded to support all browsers: Theora or WebM and H.264. However I've found it hard to find good tools that are definitely legal to use in commercial software, and can decode a decent variety of video formats. For example ffmpeg looks like the best candidate for an encoder, but they admit on their own website if you use it in a commercial product some companies may come after you for licensing fees. And in audio, 16-bit PCM .wavs are basically guaranteed to be decodable by anything. What's the same format for video though? Will .avi actually work with all encoders? I must admit I don't know much about video processing - does anyone even still use .avi? It's a lot less convenient to use uncompressed video than it is to use uncompressed audio, since uncompressed video files are truly gigantic. So I'm not even sure if dual encoding will be useful, if it can only definitely encode a ridiculously impractical format like .avi to both necessary formats. If anyone out there is a video expert, I would appreciate some tips on how to solve this.

You can always encode the video files yourself if you know what you're doing, and then I believe there's a third party plugin that can play videos too.[/QUOTE]

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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:31 pm

I personally don't care about how big construct's download size is. As long as we have as much functionality as possible, I'm fine. besides it's only 100mb right now. I could care less if it were 500mb.

I do think videos would be great cause I would like to make full animated sequences for my games. Hopefully there's a way around this problem.
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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:12 pm

look to this old video game, made with real actors filmed in greenkey and added in a cgi backdrop, i mean making games like that can be really great.

i dont think only 2d games can be done with construct, but bigger project also, for the web or dvd support.

here its my list of games made with videos, look to thoses sucessfull games.

Zork Grand Inquisitor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSLW9FqUG4g&feature=related

Zork Nemesis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PJbxIN1iz8

Return to zork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-UEJjf7oA

Phantasmagoria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ih4xObQF9E

Phantasmagoria2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK93143daEc&feature=related

The x Files: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmRmyZJ7ZK8

The 7th Guest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1RlWHSme8w&feature=relmfu

Myst: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-8CFun3nEw

Myst2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhrOoO4QYIk

Myst3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzVnAE0plgY

Myst4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfCPGqe_GiM

Myst5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXHzKsaZjE&feature=related

Riven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X81eowa15I&feature=related

Toonstruck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUOifYy-o_U

Gabriel Knight's 2 - The Beast within': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Y3TTneIpI&feature=related

Ripper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbruOX8TBes&feature=related

Police Quest4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suuwt0CDSv8&feature=related

Darkseed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAlYYDgx-Yk

Darkseed2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX2-o0O3ukU&feature=related

Realms of the Haunting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx09p21HCPw&feature=related

Conspiracies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKykYuIn-jM&feature=related

Conspiracies2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxJJHqkz3uI&feature=related

Betrayal at Krondor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Pjoo2XY5o&feature=related

Spycraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY6nCfL_nOE&feature=related

Gothos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2R1-rZ3arY&feature=related

Shivers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQGIHitXZc&feature=related

Shivers2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxjKpxd67I4&feature=related

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Post » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:46 pm

Also watch this recent game based on real footage, thats the kind of games who can be exellent, if we can make that with construct.

Browser Game: http://www.survivetheoutbreak.com/
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