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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:59 pm

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Prominent has inspired me to not care about this issue. MODS feel free to delete this.
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:28 pm

So you spent the last year of your life reading every post on this forum, double checking all the replies from the devs (ensuring you understand context) to enable you to make this well informed third post criticizing the developers?

Very very Impressive.

Still, IMO your time would have been better spent making an actual game, but I do admire your commitment.
NOTE: There is a high a probability that I am wrong.
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:04 pm

131 reputation point troll user
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:35 pm

RetroInsight, if rep mattered as much as you imply then you would know better. If you cannot keep it civil, please do not reply. This is meant to be a serious discussion, if you cannot handle that then scroll on.
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:41 pm

It's all just patterns in the mind.
Everyone is following their own direction- figuring their reality out. Making connections/disconnections, to produce sense of something/nothing..
Things are never one sided, but we all forced to believe in one way or another.
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:43 pm

Prominent, woah. That is really deep. But I am afraid I do not understand it completely. Could you elaborate?
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:38 pm

Just figured I'd say something a little different, since a lot of these sort of discussions are a product of similar behavior.. similar actions.. similar reactions.
I've realized that people generally follow an order because it allows themselves a sense of continuance or reliable way to believe in what they think they are.
Also, most people are shaped to act specific ways based on expectations others place on them. So a lot of time, people might believe they have to satisfy other people's expectations and live up to them, etc. When people don't it can cause distress in the traditions, etc, because it creates a sense that things aren't following along or continuing in a predictable manner.
I think most people have expectations about various things, and these preconceptions often determine how we choose to define ourselves or try to define others, etc..
Now, considering construct, there are a lot of people focused on it and wrap a significant portion of their life around it. So there will be a pattern that develops and people will want predictability and reliability. Also each person has their own expectations and needs/desires, etc.. and they'll chase those regardless of the desires of others, etc..
If you're in charge of a large community, all of the differing opinions essentially become noise, and it might be difficult to really listen to it precisely. I think that is what creates frustration for some people using construct and trying to engage in discussion, because everyone wants to be heard(why speak if you don't expect a response?).. And often most people don't see a broader picture because they've been following their own patterns and direction.
So scirra can censor, sure.. We all censor each other in our own ways when we don't want to respond or take part in discussion, etc, or when we disagree, we may try to change other people's opinions by arguing, etc.. That's part of discussing etc.. I think it is fine, and something people eventually learn to accept. It maybe be unfortunate though in some cases, as everything has reactions/consequences. I particularly believe, it'd better to just let people discuss stuff, otherwise they'll just go discuss somewhere else and worse feelings can develop, etc. We're all just results of our conditioning in our minds, etc, and at the mercy of our physiology usually..
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:00 pm

I've kept quiet until now, but I'm getting to the point that I no longer want to read these any more, which as a mod, I do - every post. In fact, I'm seriously considering on leaving the forums forever. Such vitriolic posts just get to be depressing after a while.

I'm more than happy to allow discussions, however uncomfortable but I do take issue with the whole 'censorship' thing.

Threads are usually allowed to say what they want and are only locked - not removed, which would constitute proper censorship - when they become repetitive (which they nearly always do) or become abusive in some way.

Anyway, of you all go, repeating the same thing. I hope you feel empowered by these posts.
If your vision so exceeds your ability, then look to something closer.
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:23 pm

@zenox98 this thinly veiled attempt to stir trouble had pretty much failed until you just swallowed the bait.
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Post » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:23 pm

therealjack wrote:RetroInsight, if rep mattered as much as you imply then you would know better. If you cannot keep it civil, please do not reply. This is meant to be a serious discussion, if you cannot handle that then scroll on.

get in your head that the perfect gamedev-tool does not exist, if you are not even able to isolate and report a simple bug in a civil and constructive way, but you are only good to provoke the patience of scirra developers and forum moderators and to discredit Construct in general, what else do you expect?
indeed for what I saw around there is too much patience from part of the staff against many dull and clumsy people, fundamentally evil people.
I too as a simple user I'm tired of reading these complaints on the forum, so I'm close to @zenox98 that have my full solidarity.
and I ask directly to @Tom and @Ashley that, if it were possible, adopt an even more rigid lines in the forum rules.
we want to read threads of people who develop games not of people who claim the impossible when they are not even able to tie their shoes.
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