Enumeration Q.

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Post » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:39 pm

Would it be possible to change the current Event enumeration of:
1
2
--3
--4
5
6
--7
8

Into something more useful like:

1
2
--2.1
--2.2
3
4
--4.1
5

Or even this:
1
2
--2.a
--2.b
3

Hope it's not just me that see it more organized/logical/useful.HotGod2012-02-11 22:39:58
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Post » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:43 pm

I don't see how it would be that helpful. The event enumeration at the moment is useless for organisational purposes anyway, because adding an event in the middle of the sheet makes all the ones below get pushed back.
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Post » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:03 pm

I came across this idea when I found myself in a long chain of events.
When I wanted to check in which sub event I'm currently in I looked at the numbers which revealed nothing.

I was not in the "main" chain of events but rather deep inside.

The indentation didn't help much so I had to scroll back up and compare the spaces between the event I was working on and an event which belonged to the "main" events.

If the enumeration was there I would have know I'm working on even number 14.3 (or 14.c) which than was pushed with the mouse to the main events place.

In the future when you'll click on event #14 all the 14.1 and 14.2... will be folded into event #14 leaving the next event at #15 (and not #32 for example).

Makes sense?
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Post » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:59 pm

I like this idea. The current enumeration has no practical purpose.
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Post » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:26 am

I don't like this idea. Having worked regularly on an event sheet 10 levels deep with more than 5000 events, this might sound like a good idea in theory, but in practice for anything complex it would be an utter mess.

Letters would be right out because it wouldn't last more than 26 events. For each level, you'd have to add another point to it. So you'd get something crazy like event 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9. It would be harder to read than what's currently implemented.

I think C2 should use what CC has, lines that show levels. Even better, I think they should be highlighted as well when an event in its level is selected, making it easier to spot which one you're supposed to be looking at.
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Post » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:11 am

@Arima, In the case of 5,000 events you prefer this:
3012
-3013
--3014
---3015
---3016
----3017

Over this?
32
-32.1
--32.1.1
---32.1.1.1
---32.1.1.2
----32.1.1.2.1

The first has no meaning beside counting events. It has no purpose too beside telling someone he/she has an error on event #40,321.
Your highlight idea is a good start/direction but it lacks the point I was trying to make - a mechanism which will show you how deep your current event is.

You also forgot my prediction - events will be able to fold in the future. With my suggestion you won't see the mess you mentioned in the 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9 scenario (have you really gone so deep?)
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Post » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:50 am

I would love to have it say 3.1 when i add a subevent to the third event on my sheet. I would prefer numbers over letters too though..
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Post » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:50 am

I second HotGods idea
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Post » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:59 pm

I agree with @Arima, many users use very deeply nested events and instead of being event 9, it could be event 3.1.1.2.1.1. Not only is that less helpful, it also is probably too wide to fit in the event sheet in its current design!

Perhaps sub-events could just be separately numbered 1, 2, 3... at each nesting level?
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Post » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:24 pm

Imo, being able to colorize events at will (like set a color for all the events of a group) would be more helpful and meaningful than 1.2.3...

I only use the line numbers when telling someone on the forum what to modify and where. There's no other case I check those, especially when using groups.
Indent is really enough, alongside comments.
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