Frankly, Whats the point of c3?

Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:43 pm

lamar wrote:....


You've asked about security several times already and @Tom has to repeat himself. What is it you're so worried about that hasn't been addressed? No one is looking through your capx files. No one is stealing your "code" on the cloud. And no you can't make a side business helping to export people's files.

You don't like the sub. You're not going to sub. But you're just rehashing the same security stuff because you're looking out for the interests of others who might buy it, who are more than capable of reading the T&C regarding security? Come on.

On topic of this thread: The point of C3 is an upgrade to C2. Different look, some new features, different support. It's not a demand to upgrade. Many of us kept using Unity 4.6 long after Unity 5. You don't have to upgrade, but if you do, you do it because you want the features that C3 has which may not be in C2.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:46 pm

Tom wrote:
lamar wrote:Lots of discussions on features and very little on security and built in codes that could end a game designers ability to use the engine which is very important to game developers that make a living from that business.


Security is a nebulous concept. What aspect of the Construct 3 engine's security are you specifically concerned about?


Well I thought I made that clear in my previous post and you basically told me to shut up and stop asking and read the privacy T&C when it comes out?

I want to know how C3 is handling security that will allow you to know what a person is publishing to enforce your license?

For example: If I have a license C3 version and my buddy has a free version and I use my version to upload his capx and export it to a different platform is Scirra going to know of that and will they lock my engine?

I don't know of any other way you could enforce your license without including code that would allow Scirra to internally shut down a specific engine and that raises privacy concerns over who is vieweing and possibly copying our capx projects.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:47 pm

lamar wrote:For example: If I have a license C3 version and my buddy has a free version and I use my version to upload his capx and export it to a different platform is Scirra going to know of that and will they lock my engine?


Hypothetically speaking, of course.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:47 pm

Bleenx wrote:
lamar wrote:....


You've asked about security several times already and @Tom has to repeat himself. What is it you're so worried about that hasn't been addressed? No one is looking through your capx files. No one is stealing your "code" on the cloud. And no you can't make a side business helping to export people's files.

You don't like the sub. You're not going to sub. But you're just rehashing the same security stuff because you're looking out for the interests of others who might buy it, who are more than capable of reading the T&C regarding security? Come on.

On topic of this thread: The point of C3 is an upgrade to C2. Different look, some new features, different support. It's not a demand to upgrade. Many of us kept using Unity 4.6 long after Unity 5. You don't have to upgrade, but if you do, you do it because you want the features that C3 has which may not be in C2.


Tom is here and does not need you to answer or run interference for him Bleenx.

Kindly stay out of that conversation and do not use my name in a quote using your own words or distorting what I said.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:54 pm

lamar wrote:Tom is here and does not need you to answer or run interference for him Bleenx.


I'm not answering for him. I'm asking you questions.

lamar wrote:For example: If I have a license C3 version and my buddy has a free version and I use my version to upload his capx and export it to a different platform is Scirra going to know of that and will they lock my engine?


Dig yourself that hole. This is making you come across as if it's something you plan to do, not something hypothetical. Is this why you're worried about security?
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:57 pm

They can't talk about security as that could lead to ways to circumvent said security.
Suffice to say it would behoove them not do anything that would get them in legal trouble.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:58 pm

lamar wrote:Well I thought made clear in my previous post and you basically told me to shut up and stop asking and read the privacy T&C when it comes out?


I don't believe I've told anyone to shut up, I'm being patient.

lamar wrote:I want to know how C3 is handling security that will allow you to know what a person is publishing to enforce your license?

For example: If I have a license C3 version and my buddy has a free version and I use my version to upload his capx and export it to a different platform is Scirra going to know of that and will they lock my engine?


We've never 'locked people's engines'. And I don't think it's reasonable for us to go into our anti piracy measures with you as part of an effective anti piracy strategy is not outlining what exactly we do to combat it as it's a game of cat and mouse. Our policy internally (and we've debated the ins and outs at length) is that we know some level of piracy will happen, but we will always do our best to ensure it never, ever affects legitimate paying customers. As long as you're a legitimate paying customer you do not need to worry.

lamar wrote:I don't know of any other way you could enforce your license without including code that would allow Scirra to internally shut down a specific engine


We've never shut down a legitimate paying customers engine.

lamar wrote: and that raises privacy concerns over who is vieweing and possibly copying our capx projects.


It doesn't, as I've explained a few times now we don't have access to your CapX files unless you explicitly decide to upload them as files to our arcade or as forum attachments.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:59 pm

Bleenx wrote:
lamar wrote:Tom is here and does not need you to answer or run interference for him Bleenx.


I'm not answering for him. I'm asking you questions.

lamar wrote:For example: If I have a license C3 version and my buddy has a free version and I use my version to upload his capx and export it to a different platform is Scirra going to know of that and will they lock my engine?


Dig yourself that hole. This is making you come across as if it's something you plan to do, not something hypothetical. Is this why you're worried about security?


No you are trying to attack me personally for asking questions to Tom about security while running interference. That is obvious to anyone reading this thread.

End of discussion with you.
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:02 pm

lamar wrote:End of discussion with you.


Not quite yet.

lamar wrote:No you are trying to attack me personally for asking questions to Tom about security while running interference. That is obvious to anyone reading this thread.


I never attacked you. You asked if you could do something; I asked if that's why you were worried about security.

Now we're done! :D
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Post » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:04 pm

Please both be civil to each other, no need for that.

Lamar, any other security related questions or are you satisfied with those answers now? I'd be interested if you had similar concerns with other engines and if you took that into account when choosing Construct 2?
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