motivation and disipline for the unmotivated & undisciplined

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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:48 am

this is a thread for procrastinators, lazy people, and people with no drive, or people formerly any of the former.

please share, not your sob stories, but anything that has ever worked for you to fix your problem. maybe a motivational fix that you forgot about, but helped you see something through to completion. please no "just do it, you gotta push yourself" type comments. i have some techniques that worked really well for me for a while, but my break is almost over so i'll post those later. [edit: added it to this post now]

i know i said no sob stories...but go ahead and sob, sometimes it helps to see someone elsewho you assumed was motivated admit they struggle as well.

I'm adding my reply here, I meant for it to be in the original post anyway, I just didn't have time:

[size=85:1bd7r8zi]i apologize ahead of time for the walls of text, but its hard to see paragraphs on my phone.[/size:1bd7r8zi]

i have 2 really awesome techniques that work for unmotivated people

ok, for starters, i'm not one of these fake unmotivated people who thinks they have a special trick, but doesnt really know what its like to be truly lazy, and easily distracted. i'm the most unmotivated person in the universe. i mean, i'm 29 with kids, and sometimes my bedroom has clothes all over the floor, and random papers on every desk and flat surface accumulating for weeks without me building up the motivation to fix it.
also, between having kids, and an 11 hour a day job(including driving), i also feel like i have no time for anything.

the two techniques i use are the 2 minute miracle, and breaking things into steps. ill say the 2 minute miracle first, in case youre not motivated enough to get through them both. each will work on its own,, but combined, they really can turn your whole getting nothing done thing around.

the 2 minute miracle is simply this. decide a time you are going to do something, or a general time frame. its best if its right before you would normally sit down and waste sometime doing something uselesss, but enjoyable, like play video games, or read random stuff on the web.
at that time, before you are allowed to do that, devote 120 seconds to whatever it is you need to get done. 2 minutes, thats it. after that you allow yourself any timewasting fun you wsnt. you can play games, you can take a nap, you can look at beautiful peopl, and do what it is people do when they look at beautiful people on tbe net. the miracle is that you will almost always find yourself working passed the two minutes once you get yourself started. if you dont however, dont sweat it. dont punish yourself in your mind. be glad you spent 2 diligent minutes, and try again the next day. try it for a week and get back to me... when youre hesitant to do your two minutes, remind yourself, you can do whatever you want in 120 seconds. youll be amazed how much this can change your life.

the next technique is breaking things into steps...now to be honest i think the first time i got thiss to work, the actual breaking into steps was done in a 2 minute miracle. all this is, is writing down everything you have to do in a large project, in broad terms, like, draw characters, make fighting events work, etc. then break it down into further steps, like if you have 20 characters to draw, break it down into each character, and if they are bones based characters, you cna even break it down into individual limbs. write them down, so you can cross them out, or put em in notepad, save it, and erase the ones you finish.like i said, you can do just this activity as your first set of 2 minute miracles... its not important to break everything down into each tiny step, just into steps you can picture yourself accomplishing in one sitting, also, its important to try to get as many " next" steps in as you can, meaning, things you dont have to finish other steps for before you can start on them...

now when you sit down to do something, instead of being overwhelmed by this huge project, you can decide on a single step your in the mood for, or one you dont mind doing at the time. also put down, " break next section into steps" down everytime you havent finished breaking down your whole project, or youll find yourself forgetting how you got so far, and back to being overwhelmed again when you finish the steps you wrote...it also makes for an easy activity to choose on a particularly lazy day.

the two minute miracle will also help you learn to sit down and get started quickly, even if at first you usually waste your 2 minutess being distracted. combined with having a list of things to get started on,, like i said, youll be amazed.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:40 pm

Utter failure reporting! Haven't made any games in months now, been writing but scrapping all drafts. All I can do is be a smart ass on some forums.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:34 pm

Damn, I was hoping to FIND some tips here, not have to try and think of some xD

I get so busy, I have to be in the right mood to work on anything... usually it helps to get me "into" it if I have done something else creative or fun during the day. I guess that can lead to inspiration which, for me, turns into motivation... especially on the creative side of things.

Failing all that, I get really drunk and hope for the best... which usually isn't very good. xD

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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:58 pm

[size=85:2tczwgwy]i apologize ahead of time for the walls of text, but its hard to see paragraphs on my phone.[/size:2tczwgwy]

i have 2 really awesome techniques that work for unmotivated people

ok, for starters, i'm not one of these fake unmotivated people who thinks they have a special trick, but doesnt really know what its like to be truly lazy, and easily distracted. i'm the most unmotivated person in the universe. i mean, i'm 29 with kids, and sometimes my bedroom has clothes all over the floor, and random papers on every desk and flat surface accumulating for weeks without me building up the motivation to fix it.
also, between having kids, and an 11 hour a day job(including driving), i also feel like i have no time for anything.

the two techniques i use are the 2 minute miracle, and breaking things into steps. ill say the 2 minute miracle first, in case youre not motivated enough to get through them both. each will work on its own,, but combined, they really can turn your whole getting nothing done thing around.

the 2 minute miracle is simply this. decide a time you are going to do something, or a general time frame. its best if its right before you would normally sit down and waste sometime doing something uselesss, but enjoyable, like play video games, or read random stuff on the web.
at that time, before you are allowed to do that, devote 120 seconds to whatever it is you need to get done. 2 minutes, thats it. after that you allow yourself any timewasting fun you wsnt. you can play games, you can take a nap, you can look at beautiful peopl, and do what it is people do when they look at beautiful people on tbe net. the miracle is that you will almost always find yourself working passed the two minutes once you get yourself started. if you dont however, dont sweat it. dont punish yourself in your mind. be glad you spent 2 diligent minutes, and try again the next day. try it for a week and get back to me... when youre hesitant to do your two minutes, remind yourself, you can do whatever you want in 120 seconds. youll be amazed how much this can change your life.

the next technique is breaking things into steps...now to be honest i think the first time i got thiss to work, the actual breaking into steps was done in a 2 minute miracle. all this is, is writing down everything you have to do in a large project, in broad terms, like, draw characters, make fighting events work, etc. then break it down into further steps, like if you have 20 characters to draw, break it down into each character, and if they are bones based characters, you cna even break it down into individual limbs. write them down, so you can cross them out, or put em in notepad, save it, and erase the ones you finish.like i said, you can do just this activity as your first set of 2 minute miracles... its not important to break everything down into each tiny step, just into steps you can picture yourself accomplishing in one sitting, also, its important to try to get as many " next" steps in as you can, meaning, things you dont have to finish other steps for before you can start on them...

now when you sit down to do something, instead of being overwhelmed by this huge project, you can decide on a single step your in the mood for, or one you dont mind doing at the time. also put down, " break next section into steps" down everytime you havent finished breaking down your whole project, or youll find yourself forgetting how you got so far, and back to being overwhelmed again when you finish the steps you wrote...it also makes for an easy activity to choose on a particularly lazy day.

the two minute miracle will also help you learn to sit down and get started quickly, even if at first you usually waste your 2 minutess being distracted. combined with having a list of things to get started on,, like i said, youll be amazed.
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Post » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:05 am

I might try that 2 minute thing lucid, seems good.

Usually if I'm unmotivated I'll do some exercise or walk away and think about something else then come back to it.
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Post » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:04 pm

After a can of Red Bull I can do anything for about an hour and a half.
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Post » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:51 pm

I find if a project is getting to be tiring it is sometimes a good idea to start working on smaller mini-projects.

I know this may sound like a bad idea, but it lets you keep your mind on making games (or whatever) and it provides an escape from the project.

If you work back and forth from one to the other it breaks up the monotony.

(* WARNING: Please concentrate on the first project more than the other(s), or this will be no different from giving up on that project :shock: )

In the end you may even find you got two games done by your deadline (happened to me twice 8). )
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Post » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:14 pm

Usually to motivate myself I must boost my emotional state and in a hour I will be in relevant condition. So...watching some emotional scenes (like this) are amongst the best instruments for me.
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Post » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:18 pm

Hmm, now that I remember, I am the most creative and motivated whenever I am walking somewhere. Long walks usually produce the most 'creative energy'.

Which usually evaporates as soon as I sit down and check forums or stuff. :(
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Post » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:37 pm

walking makes your body oxygenate your blood, which goes into your brain.

So, whenever I lose INSPIRATION, I go for a walk.
Whenever I lose MOTIVATION.... well that one is harder, but without inspiration I usually lose motivation.

I'll try the 2 minute thing... like right now.
for game motivation I sometimes watch movies that make me want to do a nice game. Like The Matrix, or Jumper (inspiration for my teleporting stuff), or dunno, gamey movies.
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