Petition to change Construct3 subscription payment

Post » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:02 pm

I bought and love Construct 2.

If C3 goes subscription then I will not buy it, the price simply does not matter, its the principle! I want to pay once and own the software to use when and how I like. I will never "subscribe" to any software even if its $1 a year.

Please stop this silly decision and let us buy it. even if its outside my current budget, I can save up and buy it in a month or 2 or 6 or whatever. Go subscription only and I will never buy it and will move to other software.
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Post » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:42 pm

I agree wtih you all. I use Construct for professional use and if it is over $200 a year and doesnt have any significant upgrades I will keep on using Construct 2.

If enough people do not buy Construct 3 Scirra will have to change their subscription model.

Seriously, I am expecting to sea massive improvements for Construct 3, so far you guys decided to announce Construct 3 pretty poorly to the community.

Most of us don't care if it works on a Mac, next time announce news that is of real interest to the community.
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Post » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:02 pm

Subscription: NOT IN MY NAME!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:52 am

+1 to OP

I have an expensive (soon to be obsolete?) C2 Business license.

I didn't care much for a multiplatform dev. environment, but I wasn't opposed to it, it's a good thing, I was willing to pay a bit more to "upgrade" (as I thought) to pay for the development of this.

Instead of doing the hard work of making a C3 IDE for Linux, Mac & etc. in addition to Windows, they just come up with a (imo, lazier) web IDE to take care of everyone.

I'm ok with web engine games, I don't want a web IDE. Even if I did, I don't want to subscribe for it.

- Why is this Chrome only? To start, ok.. I'd expect it to also at least hit Firefox.
- $500 C2 business owners get the same discount as $150 C2 Personal license owners? ...

I think this is a much better pricing idea:
- If you want to use the web IDE/cloud save features, pay a monthly/annual subscription (perhaps higher than the current one quoted)
- If you want to keep using a standalone local IDE, pay a one off fee (at discount, for C2 owners) for local C3

&, critically, I can swallow this:

I understand Scirra has expenses/needs to make money, and perhaps the userbase for C2/C3 can only get so big, and they still need to make money, well, then -

- You buy C3 with a one-off payment, like C2, and you own it forever/no more fees, and it gets bug/security fixes forever* (*or say, 10 years, or 8 years, 6 years... a reasonable time frame before the software would be obsolete anyway)

BUT

if you want FEATURE updates to C3, well you get them for 5 years (or maybe 4 years, or whatever), and then if you want new feature updates at that time, pay a small renewal fee (less than the price of the original product), or don't and keep using the product with the old features and still get security updates/bug fixes


- just do all of the above and call the "feature update renewal point" C4, etc., etc. then C5 2/3/4/5 years after that (which is what I think we all expected going from C2 to C3)

- do the above and keep the business/personal licenses. So, still $500 for a business license, maybe even lower the personal license, but charge a fee for annual/whatever time period feature update renewal licenses. Perhaps Business licenses get a business license and 3 years of features, and personal license owners get a personal license and 1 year of features

As it stands, Business license owners are really getting the short end of the stick compared to personal license owners, not even addressing the subscription/WEB IDE topics
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:48 am

one time payment or im not using it. its as simple as that.

the moment there is a subscription im going full time into unity, or gamemaker among others.
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 am

JMSNorthern wrote:- Why is this Chrome only? To start, ok.. I'd expect it to also at least hit Firefox.

No one said it will be Chrome only. We only know that the beta in April will be aimed for Chrome. I don't think the final product would be restricted to only one browser.
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:27 pm

glerikud wrote:
JMSNorthern wrote:- Why is this Chrome only? To start, ok.. I'd expect it to also at least hit Firefox.

No one said it will be Chrome only. We only know that the beta in April will be aimed for Chrome. I don't think the final product would be restricted to only one browser.


"Construct 3 works in Chrome on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Chrome OS."

It doesn't say "Construct 3 will work in Chrome, to start with", "(more browsers will/may be supported in the future)" or "Construct 3 will work in Chrome only during the beta".

And maybe they will support more in the final product, but they didn't say that. I would like to think the final product wouldn't be restricted to only one browser, but given they will still be in beta in April, I doubt that's a priority at launch (even if people weren't already using it, Chrome is free to get, after all).

They also could have said "Construct 3 works in your browser on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Chrome OS." but they didn't, suggests to me that only Chrome support is planned for now.

Perhaps other browser support will come in the future, perhaps not. If they know it will, it would be helpful to clarify that, the sooner the better.
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:33 pm

Currently is Chrome only, other browsers need a few feature catch-ups before it will run on them. We remain optimistic that they will be able to run Construct 3 in the future, hard to pin down when exactly which is why we're letting everyone know it's Chrome only for now.
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:19 pm

glerikud wrote:
JMSNorthern wrote:- Why is this Chrome only? To start, ok.. I'd expect it to also at least hit Firefox.

No one said it will be Chrome only. We only know that the beta in April will be aimed for Chrome. I don't think the final product would be restricted to only one browser.


Well the man himself just did:
Tom wrote:Currently is Chrome only, other browsers need a few feature catch-ups before it will run on them. We remain optimistic that they will be able to run Construct 3 in the future, hard to pin down when exactly which is why we're letting everyone know it's Chrome only for now.
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Post » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:27 pm

I buy C2 for $100 and use it for 3 years, it has cost me $100. I buy C3 for $100 per year, now it costs $300 over 3 years.

It's like the Unity pricing debacle a few months ago never happened....
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