Pricing of Construct 2?

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Post » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:03 am

Things like this are why I hope you guys don't decide to just set the price at X Euro and call it a day. It would be wise to make some adjustments across currencies, even if you make a little less in the end from some countries.

The alternative of course, is to make sure your free version is satisfactory enough. Still, earning a little less from certain countries is better than earning nothing from them thanks to conversion rates.
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Post » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:21 pm

[QUOTE=buddy40] Things like this are why I hope you guys don't decide to just set the price at X Euro and call it a day. It would be wise to make some adjustments across currencies, even if you make a little less in the end from some countries.[/QUOTE]
It's difficult because:
- users get angry when they find out they could have bought it cheaper in a different currency (you'd feel like you were scammed, wouldn't you?)
- if users wise up and find out which is the "cheapest" currency, then the majority of people will simply buy it at that price, and then we might not be making enough money to keep going.
It's a shame that differences in economy make for an unfair deal. There doesn't really seem to be a good solution for everybody. At the end of the day though we need to make a living in the economy we live in (here in the UK), so we have to price accordingly. If you can't afford it, there'll be the free edition!
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Post » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:45 pm

I can understand every1's arguments about the cost!

But at the end of the day, I think Ashley has put so much into Construct.
AND continues Too!!
I Think he's being more than fair in giving us the choice to go on this great journey with Construct2 and pay something for the pleasure of it!
Or to keep our money and stay with Classic!

I don't know about all you? But I'm more than happy to pay for an application, that's well on it's way to compare to some costing many,many times more than what is being suggested..
At the end of the day - You can all decide if to stay with Classic or to go to Construct 2! Or even the Free C2 being talked about.
Personally - I can't wait to see how far this magical journey will go!!

Who Knows what some of YOU! could be doing with it in the near future!
Work on a Project as half as hard as Ashley has on this! - And YOU TOO could end up making allot of money from a C2 creation..

Keep Up The Good Work Ashley..
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Post » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:41 pm

[QUOTE=Ashley]
It's difficult because:
- stuff[/QUOTE]

They might not be thrilled about it, but that is how it works sometimes. Gamemaker does this, for example. As does Nintendo with their consoles. I personally don't mind too much if someone ends up paying less than me, as I understand the circumstances.

There are ways to avoid people buying at the cheapest point as well, by making sure their credit card and/or ip match the country. Could they get around it? Sure, but it would take some effort.

Anyways, hopefully you don't wind up with too many unwilling to pay the conversion.buddy402011-08-07 18:43:17
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:24 am

Please use USD
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Post » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:57 pm

Afternoon, all. I see there is an Early Adopters cost for CC2 ( http://www.scirra.com/construct2/early-adopter ). A couple of questions if I may, of course with whatever has been discussed between the developers currently as I know the future rules may change...

COST

> Does the cost include all updates to CC2 forever?

> When does the Early cost end, if a date has been planned?

> Does the cost include all updates to Construct versions 3, 4, etc. forever, or will there be planned discounts for CC2 paid type people things?

Speaking of which...

> Does any version of CC2 have an update feature, or are all updates at this moment manually to be downloaded? If manual, any update button for the future of the client?

COMPARISONS

> What is the difference between http://www.scirra.com/construct2/releases/new and http://www.scirra.com/construct2/releases/r51.2 or are they both the same?

Thanks, all. God bless.

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Post » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:11 am

[QUOTE=GSPforChrist]> Does the cost include all updates to CC2 forever?[/QUOTE]
The license is for Construct 2 forever. Eventually (a couple years down the line) we'll come up with Construct 3. However, when we do that, we'll make sure there are some good upgrade deals for C2 users. This is the traditional software development model - it's likely we'll run out of money long-term unless we take this approach. We tried to suggest subscriptions to our userbase before but it was incredibly unpopular, so we'll have to go this way. Of course, there's plenty to do on Construct 2 first!

[quote]> When does the Early cost end, if a date has been planned?[/quote]
We haven't planned a date, but I guess it will be at least a couple of months.

[quote]> Does the cost include all updates to Construct versions 3, 4, etc. forever, or will there be planned discounts for CC2 paid type people things?[/quote]
As before there will be discounts, and everyone who has bought C2 within a certain time period of C3's release will get it free too. It's too far in the future to give specific details though.

[quote]> Does any version of CC2 have an update feature, or are all updates at this moment manually to be downloaded? If manual, any update button for the future of the client?[/quote]
Right now C2 has a simple update prompt - it tells you if a new version is available, but you have to download and install it yourself. We're planning to make this smoother in future.

[quote]> What is the difference between http://www.scirra.com/construct2/releases/new and http://www.scirra.com/construct2/releases/r51.2 or are they both the same?[/quote]
The /r51.2 URL always goes to release r51.2. The /new URL always goes to the newest release whatever it is. So when r52 is out, /r51.2 goes to r51.2, and /new goes to r52, etc. If you're copying and pasting the link it's best to use the /new one, since it keeps itself up to date.
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Post » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:26 am

[QUOTE=Ashley]- users get angry when they find out they could have bought it cheaper in a different currency (you'd feel like you were scammed, wouldn't you?)[/QUOTE]
No I wouldn't. That's normal business behavior all over the world. The price is adapted to the value of the country, it is offered in.
I for one live in a coutry, where the price for C2 seems fair. But money has no fixed value!
A country where people earn the equivalent of 100$ a month still can survive, if their economy doesn't sell bread for 2$. They might be middle class in their country, while in europe they would be rated poor.
If you don't adapt the price, you will not get customers from these countries. And that will count much more than your fears of not earning enough, because you might sell the product for less than it's worth - but you sell it. If you don't adapt you won't sell.

[QUOTE=Ashley]- if users wise up and find out which is the "cheapest" currency, then the majority of people will simply buy it at that price, and then we might not be making enough money to keep going.[/QUOTE]
All other companies found ways to prevent this. Why shouldn't you be able to work against it, too?

[QUOTE=Ashley]If you can't afford it, there'll be the free edition[/QUOTE]
That's my biggest complaint. I hate being the devil's advocate, but it's a bit unfair to say that. Why are you pointing to the free edition as an alternative? It isn't. Instead of a free edition it simply is a demo version, nothing more. 4 layers and 100 events, what bigger project should follow from that?
Don't get me wrong, I think it is alright to sell a product and offer a demo version, so that people can convince themselves of it. But to label it a "free" edition, and pretend people could do their projects with it, is close to a lie. I don't like people being dishonest. And you don't need to be, it would be accepted and understood, if you'd call it, what it is: a demo version :)
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Post » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:48 am

[QUOTE=tulamide]
That's my biggest complaint. I hate being the devil's advocate, but it's a bit unfair to say that. Why are you pointing to the free edition as an alternative? It isn't. Instead of a free edition it simply is a demo version, nothing more. 4 layers and 100 events, what bigger project should follow from that?
Don't get me wrong, I think it is alright to sell a product and offer a demo version, so that people can convince themselves of it. But to label it a "free" edition, and pretend people could do their projects with it, is close to a lie. I don't like people being dishonest. And you don't need to be, it would be accepted and understood, if you'd call it, what it is: a demo version :)
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I second this. I felt cheated with this '100 events limit' since previously they said it will be without any critical restrictions.

[quote]if their economy doesn't sell bread for 2$[/quote]
OMG, in my country bread costs about 0.5$ or less.
Seriously, 2$?
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Post » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:07 am

[QUOTE=DtrQ]OMG, in my country bread costs about 0.5$ or less.
Seriously, 2$?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, cheapest white bread here is $2 aswell. Normal grain breads more like $4 or $5 a loaf. (700g)

Thinking about this years ago i had the idea that software prices should be in multiples of 1kg of rice, since rice is a world staple food, and at least has slightly higher margin in higher income countries.

Since we're playing the devil's advocate, the counter argument is quite interesting and goes like this; Since i'm paying double or triple (in whatever currency) i should therefore be allowed to earn double or triple before upgrading. Therefore 5000 (in Chinese currency for example) might be as much as $50,000 yuan, which is still equivalent to 5000 worth of value when converted back into local currency.

(edit: adjusted yuan value)
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