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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 1:22 am

[color=#FF0000:3glmw84h]I decided to change the post heading, not worth upsetting anybody.[/color:3glmw84h]

Just came across this:

[url:3glmw84h]http://prototypegames.wordpress.com/tools/construct/#comment-3[/url:3glmw84h]

"Construct is an awesome tool. But the community forum is filled with overly sarcastic know-it-all douchebags. They seem to think that the very idea of having a REAL structured instruction manual is crazy, when the opposite is actually the case. If the community wasnt filled with such douchebaggery and assholeness, and the creator of Construct would pull his head out of his ass and write a manual so people could actually learn the proper way to use the damn program instead of wading through thousands of pages for an answer then and only then could Construct be taken seriously. Until then, its nothing more than a nice project put together by some guys and their douchebags friends and everybody on the outside of that circle is looked at as a nuisance."

What an idiot?
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 2:05 am

Ha, you're digging up a post which is a year old. No point fussing over it.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 3:30 am

I wrote that comment and I stand by every word :evil:
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 3:41 am

That man needs prozak!
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 8:13 am

I think the criticism that Construct has never had high quality supporting documentation is probably a fair one, and is being worked on behind the scenes.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 8:20 am

I must admit that it's not that easy to roll into Construct as a new guy. But there are tons of examples available on this forum that helped me enormous. Over the years, I've learned how to learn from examples, I guess some people just don't know how to do that yet..

But I don't agree on the community. No matter how simple or hard my questions are sometimes, I always get an answer within a day (sometimes within the hour!). This is one of the main reasons I chose for Construct..!
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 9:05 am

Hard to write documentation for a developing product. Just ask Deadeye how his tutorial is doing.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 5:27 pm

I find his comments on the community perplexing. Compared to other forums/communities, this one has always had a much more pleasant and helpful tone than most. Not to say that there haven't been disagreements, just look at the C2 forum XD. But even then I've found it to be more abrasive honesty than rudeness.

The documentation argument does have some merit (that it is incomplete, not the rude things he says). Though as Mipey said, hard to make good documentation for a program that is in development. But even then, it seems the guy didn't look very hard for the documentation. Even incomplete the wiki was/is probably the best tool for a beginner together with the ghost shooter tutorial.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 9:02 pm

There is a very substantial number of non english speaking users too, some who can barely string a complete sentence in english, but are asking for help in complex areas of design which requires complex answers.

You offer a solution that isn't quite what they wanted, and they get angry, you pass over the thread and they feel abandoned, it is a tough situation without any real solution.

Either way, I am glad that Tom is putting some solid thought into these things for the new website, I certainly can't wait to see that aspect of Scirras development.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 3:02 pm

Basically help documents are needed for software like this and the minute you make a program commercial along with bug fixes it becomes a must do thing.

The community here is great (well mostly) but on some indie dev forums i have seen a lot of elitism by construct users. Basically they will jump into threads about other game making programs with totally off topic comments in the style of "That program is rubbish, you should use construct instead" which really doesn't help promote a good image for the community here.

Also a lot of comments i read will be un-informed things about features where they say that the other program does not have 3d, coding options or effects etc when usually these apps do have those. That comment is a bit over the top though but i think the point behind it (documentation is needed) is right however this community is great and very helpful but i can see why some people off-site might have a negative opinion.

As for help docs though it seems like these are on the way which is great news, i hope this will apply for C1 also.
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