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Post » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:52 pm

Ok I wanna discuss this from a long time. So whenever a newbie or known scirra user post something that is already found on the forum or the tutorial the moderators instantly ask politely the topic maker to please make multiple thread or to ask something that was already answered before. My question is why?
Is it the problem that scirra has a small bandwidth or they want users to be referenced to one topic?
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Post » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:10 pm

Repeat topics are a bane to certain communities, it's a matter of taste.

To regular users, they're annoying, by discouraging the practice we get a cleaner place of discussion which promotes new, interesting topics.

The possible downside of this system is that users are referred to information that is out of date, in the near future we're going to be seeing this with regards to mobile porting and wrappers - luckily the more active members of the community are well aware of these nuances.

At the end of the day, the search function is your friend and should always be encouraged, which is the main aim of this policy - Scirra's severs can handle hundreds of thousands of user downloads, it's not a matter of bandwidth.
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Post » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:46 pm

The primary issue with people rehashing the already answered question from a forum perspective is that is adds noise. If there is already a topic/discussion about the issue, one can find the answer as well as further elements in the discussion and several points of view of the members who participated in.
By creating a new discussion you are only spreading those informations, making it harder for those coming afterwards and that do SEARCH before asking to actually find the correct informations.

Moreover, from a user perspective, it's tiring to, over and over again, see and have to answer the same basic questions being bumped relentlessly by people who prefer to wait for someone to do work for them, especially for questions that are already answered.
It just goes to show that the person asking made no previous effort in searching by themselves. That's not what's game making is about, is it ?
C2 lowers the entry point, but you still have to "work". And that's part of what makes game making fun and rewarding, isn't it ? Like for a game, you have a problem given and you find a way to overcome it. It's OK to "cooperate", but isn't it more rewarding to find stuff by yourself ? The "ha" moment when you finally understand a concept you were struggling with, and that pieces seems to fit together to form a bigger picture.

As an old timer who knew Construct before there even was a tutorial part or a clear and awesome manual available on the website, it's bothersome.
That those questions could have been asked back in those days can be understood, but that they are still now when there's already SO MUCH information available, it's bothersome.
I can understand that one can get drown under too many informations (I wrote about it in a tutorial a long time ago).
Nevertheless game making is not a race, so take the time to search for informations, to read already existing threads and discussions.
There is already so much knowledge to be found through them. Plus by doing so, even if you're not getting immediately the current piece of information you're looking for, you can learn about stuff that will help you nonetheless and prevent you from asking those questions in the future and build/understand more elaborate concepts.
Like in an RPG, you level up as you learn and practice. Except you don't have bars or visual feedback, it's all in your mind, in your goals.

What's the point for me in taking the time to gather a list like the How do I FAQ for example if nobody takes the time to check it out and just prefers to be spoon fed by asking their question rather than learning/searching first ? (I know people do fortunately but not 100% of forum users/askers though)

It has nothing to see with technicality like bandwidth, it's only a human question of "I've already answered this question 1000 times, why/how did you miss the answer ?"
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Post » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:55 am

Well said, @Kyatric.

My addendum:

Users nearly always say they have searched, but clearly haven't.

Users who just don't even pretend to make an effort at reading the manual or doing any of the tutorials, and just ask for an example of "insert game here!", with the expectation that others will do it for them.

Just 2 of my personal pet hates :)
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Post » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:15 pm

@zenox98
i wouldn't say that they never search.

Usualy beginners have not much or even no experience at all, if it comes to technical terms etc.
So they try to search for simple phrases or words, which might not be included within the topic that would actualy exist. Or due limited english knowledge, which leads them even more into the wrong direction on search results.

I'm an admin and forum owner myself (since over 10 years).

My personal tip:
A good organized forum, which a great setup does the half deal.
For example here in the Construct 2, the tutorial section.
Yes it has a few different Categories to choose from. But how is a beginner supposed to find EXACTLY what he wants? It's really not easy, and the main overview is kinda bad compared to a forum where you see much more results within much smaller space.


Then there's the forum support section.
It is not split into any sub forums at all unless "Beginner's Questions"

And the worst part (my personal opinion of course)
The titles already start with "How do I....?"

These titles simply disturb good search results.


I personaly would have split the Support section into multiple sub forums, so the search results can be limited to the section you really need help with. At the current state beginners are executing a search command upon 21'200 topics, with 122'944 posts

With good chosen sub forums, people would isolate their search to what they're looking for, causing way better results.

While the supporters could help out wherever they are good at, rather than looking through hundreds of new random questions.
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Post » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:17 pm

I hate it when some one makes a new thread in the "how do I" section, and then just make the title "How do I".
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Post » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:57 am

Yea, but people automaticaly use it because it's pre-set when they create a new topic within that section.
I even did it myself at the beginning, as it feels like you should use it.
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Post » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:33 am

newt wrote:I hate it when some one makes a new thread in the "how do I" section, and then just make the title "How do I".


Hells teeth, yes! Totally forgot about this one.

I ignore all such posts on principle.
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