Sprite Resources! (RIPS ONLY)

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Post » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:27 am

[quote:1kqhp4ar]However, you could apply the arguments you just made to, say, fanfiction, fan art, or sprite comics. I don't see anyone giving THEM cease and desist orders.[/quote:1kqhp4ar]

Fan fiction and fan art are works created by individuals. A sprite rip is not... it's straight up theft of someone else's work. And even so, fan fiction is still technically an infringement on intellectual property rights. You couldn't, say, sell your own novel featuring Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Bilbo Baggins as your main characters, because someone else owns the rights to those characters.

And I wouldn't say most companies approve of fanfiction or fangames... more like they tolerate them. Sure, there are always exceptions, such as with Black Mesa, but for the most part the official stance is always "do not use without permission." The reason so many fangames and fanfic sites can run rampant is because for the most part they are completely harmless. A company generally isn't going to interfere with your fan creations unless it threatens their profit margin somehow, because it's just not worth the time, effort, or money.

But just because they probably won't doesn't mean they can't... they're well within their rights to stop you if they see fit.

[quote:1kqhp4ar]when there's an entire online expo devoted to fan-games, it's obvious that anyone who does have a problem with it is in the minority.[/quote:1kqhp4ar]

I would say that's debatable. While a large number game developers don't see anything wrong with fangames or sprite ripping, there are just as many who do. Personally I'm not terribly big on fangames, but I'm not all that hardcore about the issue. I say do whatever you like. Though I do think that original work is always a better option.
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Post » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:54 am

Ok... here we go...
Developers often hide the resources their games use for proprietary reasons. One of those being they don't want this kind of thing happening.

I think the best way to look at this is as a game developer. That shouldn't be a big stretch, as most everyone here has had that aspiration, at least once.

So, as a would be developer, ask yourself, do you want the people who rip this stuff, then ask for credit like a dog pissing on a tree to mark it's territory, and threaten bodily harm if that undue credit is not given, to take a dull cookie cutter to your creation, your blood, sweat, and tears?

Any way this is just my personal opinion, yours may differ, and surely there are exceptions to this, as even I understand the meaning of homage, but there's a couple sayings I'd like to point out in this case.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
and
It's difficult to soar with the eagles, when your surrounded, by turkeys. :D
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Post » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:08 am

I can understand ripping sprite for own learning purposes, to see how characters are animated (walk, run, jump) or how diferent objects are drawn so you could use that knowledge to make your own sprites, but using someone else graphics for your own game it's just lame, and even after that saying you are making a fangame it's not that cool at all :wink:.
To be honest i don't realy understand that fangame idea...our world don't need another 10.000 Mario Bros or Megaman fangame-rip games...but it's only my opinion.
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Post » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:42 pm

Wow this is getting crazy...

I put the links up here for people to use and learn from... nothing more. Morally, you will do whatever you want... hell I don't particularly care if someone uses the graphics straight up, gets sued, and ends up in court over it... it's them not me.

I use sprite rips on occasion to learn from them... see how they are made... get ideas and inspiration to create something original. Hell, even using one of the sprites from a rip as a placeholder graphic, I spent hours modifying it frame by frame to give a better depiction of what MY character would look like.

If anyone wants to debate about the morality or potential consequences of using copyrighted material, can we please make another thread about it?

Thanks in advance

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