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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:56 pm

Hello everyone!

I'm looking to help. To be more specific, I want to help you develop your games...

Background: I made a Udemy course for construct 2, it has over 1000 students... (not here to advertise, so link excluded) When I put up my course there, I thought that's the way I could help the most people... After having it there for quite a while, I realize that it's not setup for what I need...

So, I plan on starting a membership site, where I can give the following things to members...
- Lots of C2 Tutorials (Mostly video, some text if need be)
- C2 Templates (both app and game templates, because I think C2 could make some EPIC apps)
- C2 Plugins (To help both game and app developers)
- Game assets
- Soundtracks
- Sound effects
- Graphics

Hopefully a chat room for instant support and for people to hang out in...

There will be a free and paid version... (Since I don't code Javascript, I'll pay someone to make needed plugins)
Free version will have LOTS of things, but paid version will help with costs, and include even more! I plan on giving away paid lifetime memberships to lots of high ranked people here.

So that's the plan, but I need to know what you guys want the most...

Are there certain games you want to learn to make?
Are there certain soundtrack styles you want me to have made?
What type of graphics do you want?
Any great plugin ideas? (Google maps plugin is planned, for you app makers!)

Thanks, and have a GREAT day everyone! B-)
Justin
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:11 pm

This sounds like a good idea :) Keep us posted when you launch it.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:20 pm

Will do glerikud!

Any suggestions on what I should add to it first once I decide on a domain name?

also, I am looking for suggestions on the domain name... since I would like for the website to also help with C3 on release...
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:40 am

How is your idea different from the current website we are on ?

Scirra.com does contain loads of tutorials (text and video). Scirra even proposes a dedicated youtube playlist named C2Academy.
You can find templates bundled with C2, you can find them in the how do I forum and you can find some (for sale) in the online store.
There's always been a dedicated forum for people who makes addons, some for free, some commercial and now there is even a dedicated online store category for those (that soon will contain some of the already proposed addons in the store).
Game assets, sounds, graphics => Online store.

Chat room - People interested can be found on IRC chat in the room #construct on irc.esper.net.

So again, I'm not sure what an external website could add more.
You could take part in the existing website and take advantage of the existing resources and structure.
Becoming a store seller to provide some of the assets you talked about. Write/shoot tutorial videos and post them in the tutorials part. Make free templates and post them in the "How do I" forum, let me know so I can add them to the "How do I FAQ", and so on...
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:28 pm

1. That chat isn't very alive... If I do add a chat room, I would try and be there a lot of the time to answer any questions I can...

2. The Text and Video tutorials are great! A few problems:
- Tutorials don't seem to be updated often... For example, the most popular is from 2011, and is from old versions of C2...
- There is 18.5 hours of content in the ScirraVideos link you gave me... Meanwhile Udemy (for C2) has 116.5 HOURS... The amount of open tutorials we have here for C2 isn't enough. The more videos, the faster C2 (and C3 once released) can grow.

3. I don't plan on trying to replace this forum (I don't plan on having a forum) or the tutorials listed here. Also I try to make a habit of stopping by the "How do I" forums often to answer questions that have no replies.

4. There are lots of great Plugin devs here... and the fact that you can make your own plugins, is AMAZING. But there are more plugins to be made, and new frontiers to add into C2.

5. The "How do I?" forum section... well, there is lots of Great info there. but it's in a form that's hard to get to... (Forum posts)
If need be, I would potentially try and make a video tutorial on each of those topics.


I kinda understand what you mean, and might drop some items in the store, and make some tutorials for that "how do I" page... But I would like to understand a bit more on your perspective...

Wouldn't a solid training website help C2?
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:17 pm

1. That chat isn't very alive... If I do add a chat room, I would try and be there a lot of the time to answer any questions I can...

Than why not stay in this current chat room instead of creating a "new" one ?
What more a "new" chat room may add ?

Tutorials don't seem to be updated often... For example, the most popular is from 2011, and is from old versions of C2...

It seems you only checked for the first page of the tutorials. The most popular is from 2011 indeed. It's the beginner's guide, which has been updated on a regular basis as required and is still the perfect entry point to use the software as it stands now. It is actually up to date with C2's current version.
Will you, in 2 or 4 years, still be around to update tutorials you would write now though ?

- Tutorials don't seem to be updated often... For example, the most popular is from 2011, and is from old versions of C2...
- There is 18.5 hours of content in the ScirraVideos link you gave me... Meanwhile Udemy (for C2) has 116.5 HOURS... The amount of open tutorials we have here for C2 isn't enough. The more videos, the faster C2 (and C3 once released) can grow.

Anyone can propose a course on Udemy and has been since Construct2's birth.
#C2Academy is "officially" sanctioned by the creators of the software, up to date and only started in early 2015. So in less than a year there was 16+ hours of up to date and valid content created.

In the long run, some of these videos will become obsolete as are already a lot of the hours/Udemy course you so gladly mention anyway.
Also, the playlist is provided for free for all users. Not all Udemy courses are, so I think you should update your numbers here and start comparing what is comparable.

I don't disagree with the fact that more tutorials/material help in the long run, but I don't see how making a third-part website will help when the official website encourages posting up this material.

3. I don't plan on trying to replace this forum (I don't plan on having a forum) or the tutorials listed here. Also I try to make a habit of stopping by the "How do I" forums often to answer questions that have no replies.

That would be where to start. Actually answer questions where they are asked the most, in the official forums for the software.
Allowing then people who do use search function to be able to find those informations, which is actually what most people do and manage to use the software with.

4. There are lots of great Plugin devs here... and the fact that you can make your own plugins, is AMAZING. But there are more plugins to be made, and new frontiers to add into C2.

I don't see how this relate to my former answer that a dedicated forums for those exists.
You can hire devs if you want and have new addons made, there's no need for an external website to do so.
Moreover, publishing addons on the official website (whether forums or store) does allow to not dilute the informations and make users be able to find them easier (compared to what you may think).

5. The "How do I?" forum section... well, there is lots of Great info there. but it's in a form that's hard to get to... (Forum posts)
If need be, I would potentially try and make a video tutorial on each of those topics.


Well, videos are cool for people in a hurry or who want to monetize over youtube. But video isn't actually always the best format to treat questions or teach things either.
Anyway, I'm wondering how you expect to make 33000 videos (which is the current number of topics in the How do I section). It's going to take a bit of time I'd say.
And generally comments of videos which are where users do ask questions about stuff they didn't understand or issues they are having isn't the most appropriate form in my opinion.

Moreover, it is harder to edit a video to update it than an actual written text.

I kinda understand what you mean, and might drop some items in the store, and make some tutorials for that "how do I" page... But I would like to understand a bit more on your perspective...

Wouldn't a solid training website help C2?


It's not the first time an external website is proposed by a "random user" (understand someone who isn't really known in the forums/community).
I still don't see how the proposition you've made in your two posts beat the current official website where official informations/resources/community can be found.

If your goal is to help out, then please by all mean, go ahead, by helping out with what structure already exists.
The tutorials/manual/forums on scirra.com have all been put in place since the software's birth to help out and train people.
How an external website would actually help other than diluting informations instead of keeping them in a single place ?

It seems to me you just want to "create your own thing" for the sake of creating your own thing.
Or perhaps monetization is your main goal, in which case this isn't about a "solid training website", this is a commercial endeavour which is very different from everything that was discussed so far and how you presented things in the first place.

I don't want to discourage you, I'm just not convinced how an external website can help.
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Post » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:11 pm

I haven't used C2 as long as you have.
I haven't posted as much as you. (not even close)
I haven't helped as many people as you.

C2 is a AMAZING piece of software that doesn't have near the amount of people it should have... and I don't see how dropping a few templates in the store is going to help it grow.

I don't know if my website will do as much for C2 as C2 has done for me. But you can bet that I'm gonna do what I can to grow C2 for what it's given to me!

PS: I was suggesting making videos for the FAQs How do I section. (not every single topic :P)
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Post » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:07 am

I support the idea of having different websites dedicated to C2. It helps the community and the userbase grow for Scirra. However, I can agree with @Kyatric too.

I'd suggest that make that website, but post all of the free tutorials/plugins/videos/etc here, on the offical site and put a big banner next to them: "Made by this amazing, Construct 2 learning website. You want more? Click here!"
Then on your website, you can link every free content to the Scirra site. So, it would be a cross-link solution.
You have free content on Scirra's site and a link to your webpage. And on your page if someone opens a free content, the user gets directed to the content on the Scirra site. Of course all of the paid content would be on your page exclusively.
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Post » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:45 pm

Glerikud you nailed it... should be a win-win-win!
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:42 pm

What Id like to see is something like say learning all the different usages for the set of condition and action and show how it can be implemented.

And tips on how to use them correctly. At the current rate i think most of us are not using them correctly.

At the moment all we have is just definition of condition not examples. And most importantly explaining and show how to properly use pick event the right way.
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