What payment option would you like to see for Construct 3?

Post » Mon May 08, 2017 10:30 pm

Here are some other successful payment option examples:

GameMaker Studio, GameMaker Studio 2 -> Buy -> users are happy

GameMaker Studio transition to GameMaker Studio 2 -> Pay the difference for an upgraded version -> users are happy

Fusion 2, Fusion 2.5 -> Buy -> users are happy

Fusion 2 transition to Fusion 2.5 -> Pay the difference for an upgraded version -> users are happy

Unreal Engine 4 -> Free to use and Pay only if you make profit with your games -> users are happy

Unity -> Free to use and Pay only if you make profit with your games -> users are happy

Construct 2 -> Buy -> users are happy

Construct 3 -> Rent -> community gone crazy

Construct 2 transition to Construct 3 -> change from Buy (own the product) to Rent -> commuity gone crazy

why break away from this traditional upgrade fee model? Is it making any less money?
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Post » Mon May 08, 2017 11:32 pm

That math for GameMaker Studio 2 is what's a little crazy.
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 12:26 am

blurymind wrote:Here are some other successful payment option examples: ....


Overall cost for thous engines is like 3x + higher. Construct 3 have rly cheap rent which let you test everything. Unity year is like 450 single seat vs 100 construct 3. Some use adobe producs, which cost more yearly then C3.
Successful would be opensource Free :) About GM success, when beginners try it they pirate it(or bought it from humble bundle). Thous GM export prices are huge for hobbyist with legal product. And if Construct 3 makes again one-time payment lets say 75-100, and then starts selling official features/updates in market, you end up paying much more then yearly 100.-
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 1:28 am

Man, why everybody gettin all upset? your wasting your energy on this debate, it is what it is, they made something great, and asked a price for it. Their product, their price. what makes people so entitled to think they can tell the developer how much their product should cost? They are giving a demo of its features for FREE... why not use the energy creating something great? please dont waste your energy complaining and being unhappy. PLEASE use your energy for having fun and making fun games.
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 5:40 am

ZakChaos

I have to say that bad capitalism should never ever be allowed and the mentality you hold for allowing product makers to sell their product for any hugely unfair price really allows for that so I think we have a right to say that we do not want to be paying for more then we should unless their's a fair reason for it .

William Henry Bill Gates III is a philanthropist he's making tons of money and only giving what he needs
not going to extraordinary lengths to cure common pitfalls in all kinds of research that he could be doing .

Jeff Bezos wants us all in a monopoly in space around the earth

Eric Schmidt is an asshole the list goes on an on.

These are not what you want to be supporting.
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 5:57 am

how many games have u made with construct 3
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 6:05 am

xrosax wrote:I have to say that bad capitalism should never ever be allowed and the mentality you hold for allowing product makers to sell their product for any hugely unfair price really allows for that so I think we have a right to say that we do not want to be paying for more then we should unless their's a fair reason for it .


That's not how a free market, or capitalism works.
Supply and demand dictate price.
If they price it too high, not enough people will subscribe.
If they price it too low, then business is not sustainable.
If the demand continues with an overpriced product, then other products will come about to fill the void.
Competition means they either reduce price, or increase quality.
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 6:49 am

Moot wrote:Idea #1:
- 30 minutes a day
- Time resets every day
- Unused time is not accumulated

Idea #2:
- About 10 hours a month
- Time resets every month
- 20 minutes a day is accumulated until the end of the month.

An other issue with this idea (next to the ones mentioned before this post) is that some bugs take more time to fix than 30 minutes (obviously). When a developer is in a flow state, you don't want to break that by locking them out while they're thinking hard about a problem and trying different approaches to solve it. I would be so furious to be locked out because of time limits while I'm on the right track of fixing something and I would have to come back the next day.
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 7:27 am

michael wrote:Guys - you just need to move on - Scirra will not listen - Ashley said as much in the last thread he locked.


We are listening - I think what a lot of people want is not for us to actually listen (which we are doing) but do something different than we've planned.

michael wrote:This thread and others like it will be locked, users who continue to voice their opinion against it will eventually be banned - and neither will be listened to anyway - so just get out there in google land - There are options.


A very unfair characterisation. Which threads have been unfairly locked? And looking at our banned list, 99% of people have been banned for spam. Haven't banned anyone for voicing their opinion if they keep it civil.
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Post » Tue May 09, 2017 8:22 am

Guys it's not about the price, it's the license model!
I stated it before and people keep going back to the price - Scirra can charge more if they want to. I think the price is fair - no problem there!
The subscription fee payment method is quite OK too. I know many will still be against it.

The lock out kill switch is the problem. Other subscription models don't have that lockout when your subscription runs out. The user simply loses access to software updates and support. They do not lose access to the editing capabilities of the software itself!

I know that Scirra is hell bent on keeping it that way, so at this point I am simply trying to make my opinion as clear as possible. Many people seem to be confused why people are angry about the new license. No no and no - it's not the price!
It's simply the idea that we are now forced to renting it and nothing more. You don't ever get to own your copy of the software and that greatly devalues it.
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