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Post » Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:12 pm

AND IT DOESNT TEST ONLY 1 GAME theres like 6 games in that review I put up just check the diff pages!!! omg u nub -.-
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Post » Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:14 pm

And that PhysX thing is bullshit you cant compare it and use as it changes the DLLs of 3dmark!!! So its kinda cheat and it affects CPU score! Compare GPU scores only when comparing diff videocards!!!
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Post » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:17 am

Sagal, I don't want to get into a bitch fight about this... but I fail to see how you think PhysX is cheating, when the majority of games support it and from now on, nearly all new games will boast PhysX support. If I am getting nearly the same frame rate with a single GTX280 as your super mega dual GPU 4870x2... then that's that mate. End of story really. Mind you, I have 2x GTX280's so I don't care either way...

Have fun with your 3 bar power sucking heater brick.

~Sol

P.S. I'm not saying that the 4870x2 is a crap card... I'm just saying there are much more viable options out there for the price... oh and, you are trying to compare a dual GPU card to a single GPU card... if the GTX280 was dual GPU (in comparison) it would whoop the living poop out of the 4870x2, IE my current SLI setup (but it's a bit pricey).
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Post » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:47 am

Sorry but... L OH L

I find it funny that you referred me back to that review, because I just looked at all the other results pages, and there is like roughly a 10% difference in performance, even on their tests. It's quite well known that Guru 3D prefer ATI products, and will fanboy themselves into the darkest of corners... but even their ratings on the other tests show there is little difference between the cards.

Personally, paying 30% more for a card that is around 10% faster... and 5x times hotter... is kind of silly. I have bought nothing but ATI for that last 6-8 years, but this time nvidia won clearly. I also find it funny how they exclude PhysX from the Vantage tests... even though PhysX is a perfectly viable way of improving game performance. It's like being in a drag race and one guy has nitrous oxide but isn't allowed to use it because the other cry baby says it's cheating.

The funniest part is the results from COD4 though.... my PC doesn't have DDR3 ram like their test rig, and has a lower core speed (even though it's a quad core instead of dual core) and COD4 runs faster than what they are claiming they got... and yes, I had SLI turned off when I checked it.

At the end of the day, you pick whatever makes you feel more like a man... I'd personally prefer to wake up in the morning and find my PC still in one piece instead of melted into a solid lump on the floor because my video card(s) caught on fire.

*EDIT*
If you still think that PhysX is bullshit... and that it can't be compared... then let's compare the GTX280 with a single GPU 4870 instead of the x2... because it can't be compared :roll:

In closing, the 4870x2 is freakin awesome if you can run 2560x1600... becuase at those super high resolutions they really shine (because of the twin GPU)... but if you are using a 22" monitor or smaller than it's a waste of time.

~Sol
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Post » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:57 am

Well you are true about the melting x2s but the PhysX is cheating in 3dmark im not saying its not in games but in 3dmark il say it is when it overwrites dlls and as i said i usually check muropaketti for news etc and reviews and im not really gettin those im gonna buy 4870 as its best price-performance card theres out... And im using 1280X1024 reso as i have 19'' monitor-.-
And we really should stop this its so offtopic and it really doesnt matter -.-
And I know that X2 is dual gpu and 280 is single but in future i think that almost all videocards will be dual or quadro or more gpus as its cheaper and easier to make multiple and connect em. As you can see from the prices and I would use nvidia too if they would have lower prices. When 280 came out it cost like 700 dollars? and when X2 came out it cost 400 dollars and after that nvidia lowered the 280 to 500 or something? so theres a hell lot air in the prices. the end.

PS. When u must be so rich when u got good pc send me one 280 :p
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Post » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:04 pm

[quote="Sagal":quqyhyer]Well you are true about the melting x2s but the PhysX is cheating in 3dmark im not saying its not in games but in 3dmark il say it is when it overwrites dlls and as i said i usually check muropaketti for news etc and reviews and im not really gettin those im gonna buy 4870 as its best price-performance card theres out... And im using 1280X1024 reso as i have 19'' monitor-.-
And we really should stop this its so offtopic and it really doesnt matter -.-
And I know that X2 is dual gpu and 280 is single but in future i think that almost all videocards will be dual or quadro or more gpus as its cheaper and easier to make multiple and connect em. As you can see from the prices and I would use nvidia too if they would have lower prices. When 280 came out it cost like 700 dollars? and when X2 came out it cost 400 dollars and after that nvidia lowered the 280 to 500 or something? so theres a hell lot air in the prices. the end.

PS. When u must be so rich when u got good pc send me one 280 :p[/quote:quqyhyer]

All good mate. Nothing wrong with a good debate. In fact, I was thinking of making a debate thread... it's a fine art :)

I dunno about pricing where you live... but over here the 4870x2 is still like $850, where a GTX280 is more like $600. When I bought my GTX280's they were about $850 each but that was a whole 2 months ago :roll: I hate how fast things go cheaper.

I think an awesome option is two 4870's in Crossfire as they will still kick total ass, yet they run a LOT cooler than an X2. At any rate, any kind of dual SLI or Crossfire setup is going to be seriously fast no matter which way you look at it. If you like to chase numbers and like to run benchmarks then sure, a 4870x2 is certainly faster... in fact it is the fastest card out right now. I just didn't like them due to price point and the HEAT.... omg 120C... what the hell were ATI thinking?

Anyway... I don't like arguing, but a point of view backed up with facts and figures can always end up a good debate. It's one of the few things I really enjoy doing whether I end up being wrong, right, or somewhere in between. It's the best way to really learn about something. ;)

Cheers

~Sol

P.S.> Back on topic xD
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Post » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:38 pm

Btw in some benchmarks ive seen 4870 in crossfire going faster than X2! Oh and well I live in Finland and heres link to shop I usually buy stuff from
http://www.jimmspc-store.fi/tuote/A7000?t=false
Thats X2 with 2gb memory and costs 439 euros when
Cheapest 280 http://www.jimmspc-store.fi/tuote/R-VGA150910F?t=false
A bit under 400 euros
Omg 2 4870s Golden Samples with twin fan coolers(Gainward installed) costs about 450euros!!!
Omg i need to buy those for my xmas present :D
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Post » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:01 pm

Notebook:

Device name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1600
Pixel shader: 3
Estimated VRAM: 1022 MB
Motion blur: Yes
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Post » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:54 pm

Device name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
Pixel shader: 2
Estimated VRAM: 300 MB
Motion blur: Yes
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Post » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:38 pm

Notebook:
Device name: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Pixel shader: 3
Estimated VRAM: 355 MB
Motion blur: Yes
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