Your Home Address Displayed By Google Play Publicly

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Post » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:58 pm

Hi all,

http://phandroid.com/2014/09/18/google-play-now-requires-devs-to-make-their-home-address-public/

As most of you probably know, Google Play will be displaying your address in the Play Store (just as your email address is now) within the next couple of weeks, and if you don't comply your account can be shut down, and any IAP or App Purchases potentially refunded.

If you only create free apps, this doesn't apply to you.

For those that have a business address, it's not too bad. For the remaining 99% of us that put together games in our own homes, it's pretty awful. It's apparently to do with EU law and giving the purchaser the ability to sue.

My question (other than how you feel about it) is have any of you had any experience with virtual business addresses, and is there a service you recommend? A PO Box sadly isn't valid - but I've been browsing and have seen a few services that offer a real London address that can be listed as a business address (for example, Bobo Games, Newcastle Cottage, London EC1 etc) for a monthly fee with a mail forwarding service.

Hoping to get some ideas before I go any further.
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Post » Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:04 pm

Like there were too much android apps free with adverts, this is a suspicious move.

No idea about adresses redirections services though..
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Post » Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:48 pm

Hi @Mark, thanks for raising this.

Those virtual business addresses in London are primarily for people who want to give the impression of being a London based business and when post is sent there they have it forwarded to their real address, typically for a fixed monthly fee.

Firstly, it's not a Google Play condition that you have a London address, so if you were going to go down this route, you'd be better off signing up with a similar service in a smaller town - for a much smaller fee.

Secondly, you probably don't actually need to receive much post, but you'd typically be paying the same kind of fee that any business would pay who is using it for heavy postal volumes - as these are typically fixed monthly fees.

You do, however, need for the owner of the address to be happy to receive any post addressed to you (e.g. Google or someone who wants to sue you because your game turned them into a psycho or something?) and for that purpose you might know someone who's happy for you to use their address. If you have an accountant or solicitor they will often be happy to operate on this basis for you, either for free or on the basis of a small handling fee for anything that does come through the post.

One thing to be wary of, if you go down this route, is that some marketing firms will trawl for data like this and put the address on junk mail lists, so your friend might end up handling more post than they had anticipated. If they're in business themselves they will normally be able to recognise 95% of the junk and bin it straight away, but if you've agreed to pay them per item you should be clear that you won't pay for obvious junk.

Hope that helps someone.
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Post » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:50 am

Just use a work address, if you don't have one, use one from a friend or colleague etc.

Google don't check or enforce it to ensure its your actual business/private residence, it seems a half hearted approach to please the al-Mighty Know It All... EU.

Definitely NOT a clever idea to put your house address for the whole world to see, especially if you have a family and kids. The internet is full of trolls, at least online trolling does you no physical harm, you don't want a real troll turning up at your place in middle of the night just because he hates your game.
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Post » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:16 am

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Post » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:49 pm

I'm a student and developing my first game but after seeing this, I don't know if I should become a business anymore :( I do not have that extra money for an office or special services to get around this.

Putting my address up there is asking for serious, life threatening trouble. I'm fine with Google having it, but it being there for all trolls, spammers, scammers, burglars, sabotagers, drug dealers, hitmen, mafias etc. to see is something I can not do. I mean we're just having that gamergate thing going on which shows it's quite clear that developers can and are being targeted by not just spam and trolls but physical abuse.

I'm already quite a paranoiac when it comes to public safety, and this would not only endanger me but my family (still living with my parents here).

Has Google defined what a free app is? I would assume free means not getting a buck out of it, including ad revenue. I was planning on having cheap In-app purhaces to go with ads.
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Post » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:24 am

Invest in a P.O. (Post Office) Box for your business. You will thank me later.... :mrgreen:
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Post » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:42 am

VValt wrote:Has Google defined what a free app is? I would assume free means not getting a buck out of it, including ad revenue. I was planning on having cheap In-app purhaces to go with ads.


Maybe you didn't go to the OP's link but it says it only applies to paid apps or those with in-app purchases, so I guess a free app is one with neither. (assuming the author is right)

^^^ I'm not sure a PO box counts as a physical address.

But apart from all that... I'm not seeing any such request, and it was meant to take force by Sept 30. So maybe it's not everywhere, or not happening at all.
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Post » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:34 pm

KazaaMafia wrote:Invest in a P.O. (Post Office) Box for your business. You will thank me later.... :mrgreen:


They aren't accepting those either :|

https://support.google.com/wallet/busin ... 2801?hl=en
Google wrote:Having trouble signing up for a Google Wallet Merchant account? There are a number of reasons why you may be unable to complete the signup form and create your account:

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- Invalid P.O. Box number address: Currently, we do not allow merchants to register their account using a P.O. Box. Please attempt registration again using a physical address rather than a P.O. Box.
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Post » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:53 pm

Well for those in the States UPS Store gives you a physical address versus PO Box. I called them directly and they said it would be 25 per month for a mailbox. So I guess basically whatever location you choose that would be your street address then you mail number. Maybe what you can try is where ever you have you PO Box setup give them that location address and put your box number as the Apt/Suite Number.

Like for example a Post Office in Houston, Texas address is
401 Franklin St
Houston, TX 77201

So for example I would just put
401 Franklin St [BOX NUMBER]
Houston, TX 77201

And if something do get mailed to you I am pretty sure they would figure out it is suppose to go to a PO Box at that location.
So you can give the information to Google like that and it should suffice.
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